[neomutt-users] Limit is sometimes applied automatically when returning to index

Igor Serebryany igor47 at moomers.org
Mon Oct 31 18:19:02 CET 2022


Thanks for sending this, I signed up for the mailing list to ask about
this same issue! Would also appreciate any pointers, I do believe the
limit re-apply happens when new mail is received, and it's very
confusing to have a message I was just looking at suddenly be gone from
the index.

A common use case:
* I filter to just 'New' mail
* I view one of those messages
* I return to the index

Now, the message I just viewed is no longer 'New', and so it's not in
the index any more. Also, this usually causes my cursor to jump to the
first message (which kinda makes sense, it *should* be on the message I
just viewed but it's no longer there).

Version details (On Ubuntu 20.04):

NeoMutt 20191207
Copyright (C) 1996-2016 Michael R. Elkins and others.
NeoMutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type 'neomutt
-vv'.
NeoMutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type 'neomutt -vv' for details.

System: Linux 5.4.0-70-generic (x86_64)
ncurses: ncurses 6.2.20200212 (compiled with 6.2.20200212)
libidn: 1.33 (compiled with 1.33)
GPGme: 1.13.1-unknown
libnotmuch: 5.2.0
hcache backends: tokyocabinet

--igor

On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 05:02:33PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just upgraded my system to Debian 11 from Debian 9, and I'm seeing
> changed behaviour in NeoMutt which is quite confusing.
> 
> It's a little hard to explain but, if I have the folder limited to New
> messages and I view one of them, then sometimes when I return to the
> index the limit is re-applied immediately so the message I just viewed
> is hidded (as it's no longer new).
> 
> This doesn't always happen. I suspect it happens when new mail arrives
> in the folder while I was viewing the message.
> 
> It's quite confusing as I "lose" the message I was just looking at, and
> my position in the folder can jump about quite a bit when this happens.
> 
> This did not happen with the version of NeoMutt I was using in Debian 9.
> There, any new messages would appear but the limit would not be
> re-applied on returning to the index unless I forced that with l ~N <cr>.
> The message I had just viewed would be visible but shown as read.
> 
> Is there any setting to return to this previous behaviour?
> 
> My config and version details appear below.
> 
> Cheers,
> Andy
> 
> set mbox_type=Maildir
> set timeout=5
> set nomark_old
> set spoolfile=/home/andy/Maildir/
> set folder=/home/andy/Maildir/
> set abort_nosubject=no
> set alias_file=~/.mutt/aliases
> set editor="vim"
> set bounce_delivered=no
> set include=yes
> set mark_old=no
> set menu_scroll=no
> set move=no
> set pager_context=0
> set pager_index_lines=5
> set pager_stop=yes
> set pager_format="%4C %Z %.20n: %s%* %[!%F %T %Z] – (%P)"
> set record=~/Maildir/.sent-mail/
> set realname="Andy Smith"
> set from="andy at strugglers.net"
> set use_from=yes
> set reverse_alias=yes
> set reverse_name=yes
> set sort=threads
> set sort_aux=last-date-received
> set sort_re=yes
> set tilde
> set mailcap_sanitize
> set delete=yes
> set postpone=yes
> set charset=utf8
> set bounce_delivered=no
> set query_command="lbdbq %s"
> set read_inc=100
> set write_bcc=no
> set ignore_list_reply_to=yes
> set index_format="%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15F (%4c) %s"
> set envelope_from
> set header_cache=~/.mutt/hcache
> set smart_wrap
> set wrap_search=yes
> unset markers
> alternative_order text/plain text/enriched text
> set xterm_set_titles=yes
> set xterm_title="%v: %f [Msgs:%M/%m New:%n%?t? Tagged:%t?] (%s/%S)"
> 
> mailboxes /home/andy/postponed `find $HOME/Maildir -type d -name cur | sed -e s:/cur$:: | sort | xargs`
> 
> ignore *
> unignore from: date: subject: to: cc: reply-to:
> unignore priority: importance:
> unignore organization: organisation:
> unignore user-agent: x-agent: x-mailer: x-newsreader:
> unignore x-mailing-list: x-editor:
> unignore newsgroups: posted-to: posted-and-mailed:
> unignore x-also-posted-to: x-newsgroups:
> unignore rt-originator: x-mailfrom: x-rt-originator:
> unignore x-bitfolk-domain:
> unhdr_order *
> 
> hdr_order \
> 	Date: \
> 	From: \
> 	X-MailFrom: \
> 	X-RT-Originator: \
> 	To: \
> 	Subject:
> 
> bind	generic	<F98>		first-entry
> bind	generic	<F121>		last-entry
> 
> bind	index	<pagedown>	next-page
> bind	index	<pageup>	previous-page
> bind	index	<F98>		first-entry
> bind	index	<F121>		last-entry
> 
> bind	editor	<F98>		bol
> bind	editor	<F121>		eol
> 
> bind	pager	<F98>		top
> bind	pager	<F121>		bottom
> 
> open-hook \\.gz$ "gzip -cd %f > %t"
> close-hook \\.gz$ "gzip --best --rsyncable -c %t > %f"
> append-hook \\.gz$ "gzip --best --rsyncable -c %t >> %f"
> 
> macro index <F5> ":source ~/.muttrc\n" \
> 	"Reload the muttrc"
> macro pager <F5> ":source ~/.muttrc\n" \
> 	"Reload the muttrc"
> 
> auto_view text/html
> auto_view text/x-vcard
> 
> $ neomutt -v
> NeoMutt 20201127
> Copyright (C) 1996-2020 Michael R. Elkins and others.
> NeoMutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type 'neomutt -vv'.
> NeoMutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
> under certain conditions; type 'neomutt -vv' for details.
> 
> System: Linux 5.10.0-19-amd64 (x86_64)
> ncurses: ncurses 6.2.20201114 (compiled with 6.2.20201114)
> libidn: 1.33 (compiled with 1.33)
> GPGME: 1.14.0-unknown
> GnuTLS: 3.7.1
> libnotmuch: 5.3.0
> storage: tokyocabinet
> 
> Configure options: --build=i686-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr {--includedir=${prefix}/include} {--mandir=${prefix}/share/man}
> {--infodir=${prefix}/share/info} --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --disable-option-checking --disable-silent-rules
>  {--libdir=${prefix}/lib/i386-linux-gnu} {--libexecdir=${prefix}/lib/i386-linux-gnu} --disable-maintainer-mode --disable
> -dependency-tracking --mandir=/usr/share/man --libexecdir=/usr/libexec --with-mailpath=/var/mail --gpgme --lua --notmuch
>  --with-ui --gnutls --gss --idn --mixmaster --sasl --tokyocabinet --sqlite --autocrypt
> 
> Compilation CFLAGS: -g -O2 -ffile-prefix-map=/build/neomutt-8uPELd/neomutt-20201127+dfsg.1=. -fstack-protector-strong -W
> format -Werror=format-security -std=c99 -D_ALL_SOURCE=1 -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D__EXTENSIONS__ -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I/usr/i
> nclude -I/usr/include/lua5.4 -DNCURSES_WIDECHAR -isystem /usr/include/mit-krb5
> 
> Default options:
>   +attach_headers_color +compose_to_sender +compress +cond_date +debug
>   +encrypt_to_self +forgotten_attachments +forwref +ifdef +imap +index_color
>   +initials +limit_current_thread +multiple_fcc +nested_if +new_mail +nntp +pop
>   +progress +quasi_delete +regcomp +reply_with_xorig +sensible_browser +sidebar
>   +skip_quoted +smtp +status_color +timeout +tls_sni +trash
> 
> Compile options:
>   +autocrypt +bkgdset +color +curs_set +fcntl -flock -fmemopen +futimens
>   +getaddrinfo +gnutls +gpgme +gss +hcache -homespool +idn +inotify
>   -locales_hack +lua +meta +mixmaster +nls +notmuch -openssl +pgp +regex +sasl
>   +smime +sqlite +start_color +sun_attachment +typeahead
> MAILPATH="/var/mail"
> MIXMASTER="mixmaster"
> PKGDATADIR="/usr/share/neomutt"
> SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail"
> SYSCONFDIR="/etc"
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